Pro Evolution Soccer 2011

Good to hear that the online is working well and it's actually got nice people to play against. Might have to pick this up sooner rather than later now. But what is the lobby system like? It's not been too good in the past. What platform did you play online?

From playing the demos, I find that this game offers an interesting game each time. You never feel like you've mastered it like FIFA. No two games are the same and that's what makes me lean towards getting PES this time round. PES demands creativity to break through and score. In FIFA you just have to twitch faster than the other guy.

Also, who the hell plays with the commentary on? You should either be shouting at the git next to you who scored a lucky goal or listening to podcasts as your life is so busy you need to multitask.

One thing I liked in FIFA before (not in 11) was the option to have foreign commentary. It might have sounded like nonsense but it added atmosphere and because you couldn't understand it you didn't know if it was rubbish.

Shame it's not in FIFA11 - but they could always do it as DLC :-(

Why would you even compare fifa to pro, they are 2 very different games, you can tinker and fix all the team names, i for one have never been a fan of fifa, and as for playing the actual footie, fifa comes a very poor second, i have been a gamer since the spectrum days and have played most football games over the years, do yourself a favour and bin fifa.

I used to hate the PES commentary so much that I'd play with it in French. "il marque un but!"

Ahh...

PES 2011 for iPhone NOW!

Wants a 'Order of the boot applies!' tshirt

"I've also witnessed a far more laid back community than FIFA, with less quitting out and more friendly massages after games." Massages??? Oo-er!

Not sure where you're coming from with the criticism of the player likenesses? They look amazing to me and even better than last year!

Agree about the refs though. Can see their constant blowing up becoming very frustrating after a while!

As for the same old c**p about licenses though - You can't criticise PES for this as EA hold the licenses for the Prem lg and there's nothing Konami can do about it for now!!! Plus you can just download an option file for the Prem lg kits a few days after release.

I judge my football games on what happens on the pitch and having played both Fifa 11 and PES 2011 demos I've got to say PES felt the more satisfying and exciting game. Plus you get Masters League in PES which is just immense!!!

fifa 11 feels amazing as it has better graphics as it uses shader model 3. And the gameplay is flowing nicely than pes 2011